I have a roommate who is one of my few friends. Like me he is very religious. But there is a big different between us. He goes to church twice a week, Bible study and Outreach ones a week. I don't go to Church, mostly because i get very bad anxiety plus high BP when leaving the house plus i don't study the Bible. What i do is i pray every night and try to be a good person. In the last 10 years i took like 20 peoples in and let them stay with me till they found a job and a own place to stay. I believe very much in our creator but it looks like being a good person is not enough. I always hear from my roommate i am going to HELL because i am not going to Church. It hurts so much to hear this because i do thing i am a good person. But if you hear this often you start to not believe in your self. Thats why i never talk about my believe because of things like this. I guess i will not be along in this place because there are so many people out there who are like me. I just feel like crying now after Hearing again acording to the Bible i am not good enough.

P.S. For some reason i posted the same entry 3 times and when i deleted two of them ,i deleted the one with all the comments. I wanted to keep your kind comments so i just put them back here from the e-mail.
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From: (Anonymous)

From keiliss


Sweetheart, as I recall it Jesus said what matters is the content of a man's (or woman's) heart, not how outwardly Religious they seem. Trying to be a good person and caring for others is what being a Christian is really about, not going to Church a couple times a week and making a great show of Bible knowledge.

If your friend is such a great Bible scholar, he's no doubt familiar with God's injunction to "Judge not, lest you yourself be judged." We each have our talents and yours is kindness, and that's really the heart of the faith. You are so not going to Hel.

*hugs*

From: [identity profile] naurring.livejournal.com


The bible was written by humans, not by God. They held damn *councils* to decide what they liked well enough to put inside. Humans make mistakes, humans deliberately twist things to their own liking, and having the bible say 'you have to go to church' has few to do with God being disappointed with you, if you don't go.

You can tell your roommate that next time he tries to make you feel inferior with saying that praying in a church is worth so much more than praying in your home, according to the bible. Doesn't seem very Christian, either. I guess it's just simpler to point fingers and nicely go to Church, and feel safe in your belief that that's all you have to do, instead of making a real effort to be a good person. I'm not religious, but I doubt that God would feel so happy about this, or about people degrading each other based on the fact where they pray. And isn't there this matter of God supposedly being everywhere? So why should it matter where you pray, he would hear you everywhere.

It's probably hard, but try not to let this get to you too much. My agnostic opinion might not be worth much, but I do think that it would not matter to God if you pray in a church or not.

And perhaps, get yourself some comfort food/drink and just cry for a while, if you feel like it. Makes me usually feel better, at least, to let it out. *hugs tightly* You're NOT a bad person, no matter what your roommate says.

From: (Anonymous)

From jaiden_s


He's terribly misguided, and I hope that you won't take his words to heart, though I know it is hard not to...

A personal relationship with God is just that: personal. It's none of his business how you worship, pray or find your way spiritually. He needs to tend to his own spiritual garden and stop picking at the grass in yours.

From: (Anonymous)

From quiet tears


my sweet, sweet friend ((((((hugs))))))) i am going through the same thoughts and feelings as you are on this very topic... so i understand what you mean so much. i think we should both just keep our minds set on God and trying to be good people. your lj friends above have said very wise things, and i agree.
i love you and God loves you too!!!! ♥

From: (Anonymous)

From farmairhaldir


Oh Bettina, I am so sorry that you have this awful person in your life. First- Going to church doesn't make someone a better Christian or a more Godly person. I know so many people who go to church and are some of the biggest sinners. Your roomate sounds like one of them, It is not our place to judge anyone else. Our only judge is our Creator who will will face in Heaven.

Second- There are many people who cannot go to church for various reason, but they are believers, good people and will go to Heaven.

Your so-called friend is sadly mistaken Do not let his twisted beliefs get you down. You are right, he is not. You are a wonderful person and don't let anyone else tell you different.

If he really read and understood the Bible and the teachings of Christ he would know how very wrong he is.

I know your heart is good, but I think you should probably ask him to find another place to live. You do not need anyone like that in your house. It is not healthy.

We all love you and so does God!

*hugs you tight*

PS- Pray for God to lighten your heart of this burden. He will

From: (Anonymous)

From whiskynshinra


There will always be someone who feels you are not religious enough. I know there are plenty who believe that about me. But it all comes down to how you feel and how YOU choose to worship. You sound like you are happy overall with how you choose to show your faith, so why let someone tell you how to feel? Faith is as subjective and individual as the person, and if you believe that what you're doing is right, then it is. Having faith in the divine also involves having faith in yourself. =)

From: (Anonymous)

From Jay of Lasgalen


I'm sorry, but your roommate isn't much of a friend if he says things like that - and he's not being very Christian, either.

People should be judged by what they do, and how they live their lives - not by how many times they go to church, or how often they read the Bible.

One thing I'm certain of - there is a place in Heaven for everyone who God feels is worthy, and He won't judge on things like who goes to church most.

Try not to let this get to you. You're a good person, and deserve better.

((Hugs))

From: (Anonymous)

From Binky


Do not feel bad or self doubting. God knows your position better than your friend does. Follow what you feel is right in your heart and ignore the comments of others.

From: (Anonymous)

From Weeping Naiad


Going to church does not make one a good Christian, just as sitting in a garage does not make one a car.

It's what's in your heart, hon. And Christ himself knew this and felt this. Do not let others judge you or bring you down. Faith is what matters.

*hugs*
WN

From: (Anonymous)

From Ice_Lady_


*holds tight*

Please, don't take this the wrong way, and I really don't mean it like that, but seriously, most of the stuff written in the Bible is archaic and so very much written through the lens of people who lived there (a very tiny tribe surrounded by badass huge kingdoms that tried to butcher 'em up from all sides). Whether the message from god is there or not, I'm not getting into that discussion (each of us has the right to our own belief), but when I hear people yap about how you're gonna go to hell because you're not abiding to millennia old rules that MADE SENSE THEN... why are you using a computer then, seriously?!

*glomps again*

Please don't let this person's hatred get to you. Ever heard of that little thing that half the Bible was based on - love?

Also... even though this article is written by an atheist, I think the message is gorgeous and should be applied to anyone, regardless, no?

I always come back to reread this little paragraph, 'cause it's so beautifully showing who humans really are, and what we should all strive to be:

If I’m trapped in a foxhole—or a shower, slumber party, or abandoned farmhouse—give me someone who celebrates the human capacity for understanding and choosing what’s right, rather than someone who needs to be told what’s right, and then chooses it to avoid punishment.

From: (Anonymous)

From darkling



First off you need a new roomate. If he is so religous and you are so bad, why would he live in the same house as someone who in his mind is evil and going to hell. It makes no sense. God doesn't judge and love people by who is sitting in the pews. You ARE a great person. God loves you. We all love you. You just need to be the best you, and that's all he wants.

From: (Anonymous)

From Girlspell


Oh I'm so sorry you feel this way, because you are a very good person. You love your family, your animals, you friends, and you home, town, city, earth. You love God too. Everyday and in everyway. You love Him where ever you are. A person could sit in a church and hate God. And no one would be any the wiser. They would think "See, he's at church 24 hours a day. He must love God"

I'm a very religious person and I'm not a Christian. I follow the 10 commandments. I am not mean or cruel to anyone. I think you are the same way. So me you are more then religious. You're a spiritual person. Because you feel close to God in everyway.

From: (Anonymous)

From silver trails


Your roomate will go to Hell if there is one, because he is so mean to you. Don't listen to him. You are a good person, he appears to be a fanatic. Does he live in your house?

From: (Anonymous)

From beruthiels_cats


Oh, dear Elfie...*hugs you tightly* I have been where you are, and the worst thing you could possibly do is to start doubting yourself. God doesn't have much patience with the kind of people who enjoy treating others as you have been by your roommate. Ignore it, dearest...and find yourself some better company. *hugs you more*

From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_magicsocks/


I firmly believe in God. But I don't go to church. I don't go because there are so many hypocrites. Plus people telling you that you are going to hell and judging you. When in fact who are we to judge? I think one of the last times I went to church was when there wasn't enough people there to count on one hand and the preacher looked at me and my ex husband and said we were sinners. Might be but I wanted to say well aren't you one as well for I saw your car going to a bar? But I didn't say anything, instead stopped going to any church.

I think your roommate needs to learn about religion. I don't ever recall it saying in the bible that you can go to hell for not going to church. I would read my bible (not saying you haven't) and pray to God. He is the only one I would trust.

(((((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))))))

From: [identity profile] elflover59.livejournal.com


Thank you for your kindd words. They helped a lot."huggles"

From: [identity profile] alexcat.livejournal.com


Don't let your friend's disapproval make you think you are not worthy or are not a good Christian. I seldom go to church but I do pray to God every single day and I do try to be a decent human being. Jesus tells us that our belief is all that is required so please don't let this get you down. You're one of the kindest people on my friend's list and I don't like the idea of your suffering over this. Tell God how you feel. He will understand.

From: [identity profile] elflover59.livejournal.com


Thank you for your kind words. They helped a lot."huggles"

From: [identity profile] nienna-weeper.livejournal.com


He is being abusive and not very Christian to say that to you. Take it from me, honey--- you don't need that sort of person in your life. Some people who say they are Christians act in a way that Christ would not be happy about at all.

Please let that go and get him out of your house ASAP.

Love you!

From: [identity profile] elflover59.livejournal.com


Thank you for your kind words. They helped a lot.Believe it or not but he is the nicest person,funny and helpful but when it comes to religion he has his mind set in what to believe."huggles"

From: [identity profile] thalassa-ipx.livejournal.com


Please Bettina, don't feel bad about this. Because if not going to church is one ticket to Hell then I'll gladly accompany you.

Like everybody said this person is misguided.


From: [identity profile] elflover59.livejournal.com


Thank you for your kind words. They helped a lot.IWe both will have lots of good company."huggles"

From: [identity profile] mistressminx-13.livejournal.com


Oh, sweetie. I'm so sorry you're going through this.

In my experience, the churchgoers always seem to be worse than the ones who don't go to church. And, according to most religions (and my mother), I'm going to hell too.

I think I would rather be a "spiritual" person and do what I feel is right, than to go to church. Your roommate doesn't sound like a very Christian person at all. Sounds like its time for him to move on.

*huggles*

From: [identity profile] elflover59.livejournal.com


Thank you for your kind words. They helped a lot.Believe it or not but he is the nicest person,funny and helpful but when it comes to religion he has his mind set in what to believe."huggles

From: [identity profile] blueslashicons.livejournal.com



I have always believed that organized religion is a form of mind control, and I apologize for hurting any ones feeling because of my belief, but it is what it is. Something made all us and the universe - even what is outside of our scope to even imagine, it is too mind boggling to comprehend. What makes these others feel that they have a toe hold in that while others who don't follow them will not. People should practice/do what they feel is right for them and not criticize others for their beliefs. Don't worry about what this person says, and if you feel right about yourself tell him that that subject is closed. Who knows who wrote the bible and other scriptures. Sure, we find artifacts, but they're all man made. Maybe the ones who wrote the scriptures and whatnot were on some religious drug at the time, like the American Indians and peyote. *shrugs* Bottom line, people all over the world need help and you are very brave to help them. Do your thing and let the rest take care of itself.

What/where is hell? Hell is war, hell is death camps, hell is murder of the innocent, genocide, there are so many man made hells all over the world, no place is immune. What those people are alluding to are man made nightmares to keep the masses in line. Do your own thing girlfriend, and don't cry, you are loved.

*hugs*

May

From: [identity profile] elflover59.livejournal.com


Thank you for your kind words. They helped a lot."huggles"

From: [identity profile] how-they-sing.livejournal.com


You are definitely not going to hell sweetie, nor any place bad. Church is only one place to worship. What matters is in your heart, your beliefs and feelings. Religion is personal to everyone, and we each express our faith in a different way. I'm glad you decided to post this again so I can respond with others to give you love and support. I have faith, but no longer go to church, or study the bible. I live my life the best I can, as you do.

From: [identity profile] elflover59.livejournal.com


Thank you for your kind words. They helped a lot."Huggles"

From: [identity profile] amarissia.livejournal.com


*hug* I wish I knew what to say that would help. All I've got is that the Bible is a book. An old, frequently edited, much mistranslated book. You are a good person, I can tell.

And if it helps, I'm Pagan. I'm in way more danger than you. :)

From: [identity profile] elflover59.livejournal.com


Thank you for your kind words. They helped a lot."Huggles"

From: [identity profile] autumn-witch78.livejournal.com


When I first started working in my current job, people assumed I keep religious holidays and eat kosher food and were very disappointed when I told them that I don't. So I told them, when God fixes everything else that is wrong with our world and the only problem left will be me not following his rules, I will think about following them.

I really don't think God cares about what we eat or if we go to church or synagogue, you have a good heart, you're a nice, sweet person, that's what matters.

And I don't think I'd call your roommate a "friend", he seems anything but, to be honest.

*HUGS*

From: [identity profile] elflover59.livejournal.com


Thank you for your kind words. They helped a lot.Believe it or not but he is the nicest person,funny and helpful but when it comes to religion he has his mind set in what to believe."huggles
minuial_nuwing: (Snoopy hugs)

From: [personal profile] minuial_nuwing


You need to remove that person from your life, right now.

Participating in an organized worship service forty-seven times a week and being able to quote any given religious text backwards does not make anyone holy. It very often makes people hypocrites, frankly.

You are a kind, decent person who needs more self-confidence and less crap in your life, and I would toss that so called 'friend' out in the first load.

**hugs you**

From: [identity profile] elflover59.livejournal.com


Thank you for your kind words. They helped a lot.Believe it or not but he is the nicest person,funny and helpful but when it comes to religion he has his mind set in what to believe."huggles

From: [identity profile] phyncke.livejournal.com


What you believe is in your heart and it is very un-Christian to say that to someone. I practice Judaism on my own and don't go to temple each week. I observe the sabbath on my own and in my own way. I think God sees each of us, in our own way.

Church is just a "place" and it does not matter where you pray, just that you do. Right?

*hugs* Love you!

From: [identity profile] elflover59.livejournal.com


Thank you for your kind words. They helped a lot."huggles"
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